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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Absolutely not, Carey;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From the FCC part 97’s point of
view, you would be communicating with someone on another service, which is only
allowed in emergencies and specially authorized tests, such as the annual MARS
cross band (actually cross-service) test.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Two options are: 1) have him
get an amateur radio license (not hard anymore since there is no code test) or 2)
use FRS. If you are close enough to use the low power setting on your HT,
then FRS’s half-watt power should be ok. I was a bit concerned by
aeronautical mobile operation of FRS at first, but it is specifically approved
by 47CFR95. See paragraph a4 below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The FRS radios have a great range of
prices. Get one of the better ones >$60 for better performance. The
$20 units are pretty lousy. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Don’t endanger your ham license by
trying the one way thing. It’s clearly illegal. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regs follow. 73 John…
WB4LNM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[Code of Federal Regulations]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[Title 47, Volume 5]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[Revised as of October 1, 2007]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> Government Printing Office via GPO Access<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[CITE: 47CFR95.192]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[Page 534-535]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION (CONTINUED)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>PART 95_PERSONAL RADIO SERVICES--Table of Contents<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Subpart B_Family Radio Service (FRS)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sec. 95.192 (FRS Rule 2) Authorized locations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (a) Provided that you comply with these rules, you are authorized to <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>operate an FRS unit:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (1) Within or over any area of the world where radio services are <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>regulated by the FCC (this area includes the fifty United States and the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:State w:st="on"><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>District of Columbia</span></font></st1:State>, the <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Commonwealth</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Puerto Rico</st1:PlaceName>, the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Virgin Islands (50 islets and cays), <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">American Samoa</st1:place></st1:State> (seven islands), the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Commonwealth of Northern <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Marianna</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Islands</st1:PlaceName>, and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Guam</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Island</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>);<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (2) Within or over any other area of the world, except within or <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>over the territorial limits of areas where radio services are regulated <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>by an agency of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> other than the FCC or any foreign <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>government (you are subject to its rules);<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (3) Aboard any vessel or aircraft registered in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>, <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>with the permission of the captain, that is within or over any area of <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the world where radio services are regulated by the FCC or upon or over <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>international waters;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (4) or; Aboard any unregistered vessel or aircraft owned or operated <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>by a <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> citizen or company that is within or over any area of <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the world where radio services are regulated by the FCC or upon or over <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>international waters.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (5) You must operate the FRS unit only according to any applicable <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>treaty to which the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> is a party. The FCC will make public <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>notice of any such conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (b)-(c) [Reserved]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (d) Anyone intending to operate an FRS unit on the islands of Puerto <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Rico, Desecheo, Mona, Vieques, and Culebra in a manner that could pose <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>an interference threat to the Arecibo Observatory, shall notify the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Interference Office, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arecibo</st1:place></st1:City> Observatory, HC3 <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Box 53995</st1:Street>, <st1:City w:st="on">Arecibo</st1:City></st1:address>, Puerto <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Rico 00612, in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>writing or electronically, of the location of the unit. Operators may <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>wish to consult interference guidelines, which will be provided by <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cornell</span></font></st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>. Operators who choose to transmit information <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>electronically should e-mail to: prcz@naic.edu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (1) The notification to the Interference Office, Arecibo Observatory <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>shall be made 45 days prior to commencing operation of the unit. The <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>notification shall state the geographical coordinates of the unit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> (2) After receipt of such notifications, the Commission will allow <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the Arecibo Observatory a period of 20 days for comments or objections. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The operator will be required to make reasonable efforts in order to <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>resolve or mitigate any potential interference problem with the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arecibo</st1:place></st1:City> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Observatory. If the Commission determines that an operator has satisfied <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>its responsibility to make reasonable efforts to protect the Observatory <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>from interference, the unit may be allowed to operate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[61 FR 28768, June 6, 1996, as amended at 62 FR 55535, Oct. 27, 1997; 63 <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>FR 68976, Dec. 14, 1998; 70 FR 31374, June 1, 2005]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
k4ry-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:k4ry-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Carey Huff<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 03, 2008
7:36 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> K4RY@eng.auburn.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [K4RY] Rules question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I need to be able to communicate with dad from the ground
while he is flying overhead. He isn't licensed, so can't transmit on our
bands. I don't have a radio that will transmit on airbands. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I could easily connect my scanner into his 'aux in' port on
his intercom system and let him hear me. And I could set one side of my
radio to receive him on his AM airband. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Is this within the rules? I would only be transmitting
on the lowest power setting my HT has as he will always be in close proximity
to me. We are using him as a search plane to find downed rockets and it
would make it much easier to have communications. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Carey L. Huff</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Hoar Construction, LLC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Two Metroplex
Drive, Suite 400</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Desk: 205-423-2389</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Cell: 205-451-8997</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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